[ntp:questions] Trying to reply to an NTP Questions request I get this

Charles Elliott elliott.ch at comcast.net
Thu Aug 22 11:38:04 UTC 2019

FWIIW, ever since NTP.org transferred its email lists from ISC I have received a tiny fraction of the NTP-related email that I had in the past.  For example, now I see two or three requests for assistance a month, whereas in the past there were 2-3 a day.  Also, I only see bug reports when Perlinger or Stenn announce the bugs are fixed, and never the original requests.  Although for me this is a huge timesaver, I am assuming that there may be something broken with the way NTP email is being handled now.

Charles Elliott

-----Original Message-----
From: questions [mailto:questions-bounces+elliott.ch=comcast.net at lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of David Taylor
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 1:34 AM
To: questions at lists.ntp.org
Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Trying to reply to an NTP Questions request I get this

On 21/08/2019 21:01, David Woolley wrote:
> On 21/08/2019 17:42, David Taylor wrote:
>> You are not allowed to post to this mailing list From: a domain which 
>> publishes a DMARC policy of reject or quarantine,
> blueyonder doesn't appear to publish any DMARC policy.  Did you 
> actually use a blueyonder address as the header From:?  It is also 
> possible that they tried one and it broke too many things.
> They do seem to have a DKIM signature that includes the subject, so 
> any mailing list that rewrites the subject will break the signature.  
> Most mailing lists rewrite the subject, if it doesn't have the list tag in it.
> I imagine the list software isn't doing a fully analysis of DMARC and 
> DKIM to see if relayed mail will fail, but just looking for specific 
> things in the DMARC policy to know whether a failure would be a 
> problem for the list.
> I'm assuming it is well behaved and rewrites the envelope from so that 
> SPF will pass the mail. Otherwise it will be generating SPF failures, 
> downstream.

Thanks for your comments.  As a major ISP, I would expect Virgin Media (a.k.a. blueyonder) to get things right - if only!  Yes, I simply used my blueyonder e-mail which has worked without issue in the past.  I've been advised to use a gmail address instead which I've now done, and await to see whether I now get two copies of the messages.

I did try to contact the list manager (johnl at .....) but mail to him got a "retry timeout exceeded"!  What a mess!

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