[ntp:hackers] Some NTP services to be terminated or
relocated at UDel
Brad Knowles
brad.knowles at skynet.be
Wed Aug 20 08:21:54 PDT 2003
At 2:53 AM +0000 2003/08/20, David L. Mills wrote:
> 3. I am extremely irritated at the mail condition on maccarony. I have
> insisted, read that required, that incoming mail behave as incoming mail
> on UDel machines. Harlan and Brad have sandbagged that to the max and I
> won't stand for that.
We have not sandbagged. We have asked that we hear what the
official UDel EECIS mail policy is, directly from the people who set
that policy. That is all we have ever asked to do, since this topic
first came up.
I am perfectly happy to implement whatever UDel EECIS policy may
exist. But I want to hear what that policy is from the people who
set that policy, before I go blindly trying to do something. I
prefer not to use the "Ready, Fire, Aim" method, or to blindfold the
people with the weapons, as opposed to the person to be executed.
We have pointed out that simply using the previous postfix
configuration file or the previous binary will not work, because
there are pre-compiled defaults included with the binary, and using a
binary with a mis-matching configuration file is likely to result in
behaviour that is undesirable.
Furthermore, using both the previous configuration file and
binary will not work, because that won't reflect the new
mailman-based mailing list structure, etc....
I'm looking at the machine right now, and I'm having trouble
finding a functional postfix configuration other than the one we're
currently using. There is a /usr/local/postfix, but it is using the
very ancient postfix-20010228-pl08, and the main.cf and master.cf
configuration files don't seem to have been changed since May 17 and
Apr 27 2001, respectively.
Moreover, there is no inclusion of SpamAssassin or Anomy in these
configuration files, or any of the other things that I know are
standard on UDel mail servers, because I've gotten messages from them
(such as whimsy and mail.eecis.udel.edu) with headers that prove what
they're running.
There is no other postfix installation anywhere on the machine
that I can find.
> I have set a deadline of Wednesday for conforming
> to the UDel model, but from mail received today, it hasn't happened.
I could implement the postfix configuration I found, but if I did
that basically all e-mail on the system would go away. If we're
going to do that, we might as well just shut down e-mail completely,
until such time as we can get a configuration running that meets with
the approval of EECIS.
> It
> would be much better if Brad or Harlan could do this, since that would
> be minimal impact on NTP mail.
Harlan is not available for the next several days, something
which I believe that he previously mentioned to you in private.
Basically, when it comes to the mail system on maccarony, I'm it
for the moment. That is, unless you're willing to wait for Harlan to
become available again, or you want to bring in someone else.
> However, if that hasn't happend by
> Wednesday afternoon, I will ask the department staff to reconfigure the
> mail as per UDel practice.
Given the state of what I've been able to find, I believe that we
are going to need the involvement of EECIS, no matter what.
If they can give me the policy, I can construct a suitable
configuration. Alternatively, if they can give me up-to-date
configurations (including binaries), I can put those into the
appropriate place.
--
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles at skynet.be>
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
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