[ntp:hackers] Dlink is abusing almost *ALL* stratum 1 servers :-(

todd glassey todd.glassey at worldnet.att.net
Sat Apr 8 21:03:48 UTC 2006


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk at phk.freebsd.dk>
To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey at att.net>
Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray at suespammers.org>; <hackers at ntp.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ntp:hackers] Dlink is abusing almost *ALL* stratum 1 servers
:-(


> In message <012701c65b4b$1d2a8b00$010aa8c0 at gw>, "todd glassey" writes:
>
> >Poul - if you didnt like my last commentary - you really wont like this -
> >you may have liability to trying to cut off D-Link... let me continue..
>
> Todd,
>
> You and I have fundamentally different views of how the world should
> work
>
> I don't think any lengthy emails will change either of us to accept
> the others point if view.
>
> I see this case as one incredibly stupid, greedy and irresponsible
> vendor who has to clean up the mess they have caused..
>
> And that's all.
>
> I do not see it as a lever to implement a new world government of
> all NTP servers.

Nor do I

>
> I do not see it as lever to force people to pay for a service they
> can have for free today, provided they behave themselves.

You may not have a choice then - and the issue is whether you get to define
how they are to behave themselves.

>
> And I do not see it as a lever for you to build the empire you so
> feverently crave to rule.

Wow - where did that come from?

>
> Now, we've heard your idea, now let the rest of the community
> get a chance to find out what's happened, let them think about
> it, and then lets see what we do.
>
> In the meantime, I suggest you sit down and write up your proposal
> in a coherent fashion.

Thanks Poul.

>
> Poul-Henning
>
>
> -- 
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk at FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by
incompetence.



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