[ntp:hackers] i think it's time to review ntp's default acl's

Hal Murray hmurray at suespammers.org
Thu Mar 23 22:18:52 UTC 2006

> isc is under significant pressure from the world community to change
> the default in BIND to be "do not answer queries from off-LAN
> sources", due to the now widespread use of DNS as a reflector/
> amplifier of spoofed-source DDoS attacks.

DNS and NTP are just the tip of the iceberg, and I think it's a huge one.

Could somebody give me a lesson in the big picture?  (URL would be great.)

Are we going to have to give up on UDP because it's easily abused by bad guys?

Is it possible to get routers to drop packets with forged source addresses?  
I assume there are both technical and social/political issues.  I don't know 
if it's reasonable to solve either.

For NTP, it seems possible to allow access only by previous arrangements.  
The administrative overhead would probably eliminate public servers as they 
are currently used.  That would encourage/require ISPs to setup NTP servers 
for their customers.

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