[ntpwg] Autokey refilihng - my point...

[Todd Glassey]

Stewart Bryant wrote:
> Todd Glassey wrote:
>> Stewart Bryant wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since autokey has already passed Working Group review, it would 
>>>> have to
>>>> be pulled back to the working group to change the protocol and then
>>>> resubmitted to IESG.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>> It would also need to go for IETF LC before it went to the IESG.
>>>
>>> Given where the document is, the best strategy would be to continue 
>>> with Informational.
>> No its not. But I am betting you have a financial interest in keeping 
>> NTP where it is considering the pain you will have to go through with 
>> IOS to fix them.
> That is a completely inappropriate remark and I require an apology to 
> the list!
No there is NO apology coming, and for the record - this demand of yours 
is an attack and a misrepresentation of my words. This was not pointed 
at you personally but rather the people you work for and it was ONLY an 
observation as to what it would cost in time and money a company with 
the deployment footprint (as in millions of devices)  like Cisco's to 
fix an NTP issue  through a firmware release, so there was NO personal 
commentary pointed at you. But since you have insisted there is we 
should get John Chandler involved in this - do you want to call him or 
should I?

>
>  Sure, so start the process of getting this to PS. From the thread the 
> first thing you
> need to do is to provide proof positive of an independent 
> implementation, then
> you should provide Brian with the text he asked for. However I do not 
> see why
> that should stop NTP WG from continuing with the plan of record to 
> take this to
> Informational in the meantime.
Because Stewart there are already hundreds and hundreds of instances in 
use where AutoKEY as it is today is in use and is in production. I have 
about 300 client's using it already myself.
>
> - Stewart
>
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