[Pool] Taking down my NTP server in Turkey

[Jose Gerardo Perales Soto]

I currently have 3 servers assigned to another zone.

Can they be added to the .tr zone too?

- Gerardo Perales

-----Original Message-----
From: pool-bounces+gerardo.perales=axtel.com.mx at lists.ntp.org [mailto:pool-bounces+gerardo.perales=axtel.com.mx at lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of Svavar Kjarrval
Sent: Viernes, 03 de Agosto de 2012 08:59 a.m.
To: pool at lists.ntp.org
Subject: Re: [Pool] Taking down my NTP server in Turkey

If it's ok that a server is in England, then I can donate it to the zone for now.

- Svavar Kjarrval

On 02/08/12 15:32, Henk P. Penning wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Mouse wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:24:29 +0200
>> From: Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG>
>> To: pool at lists.ntp.org
>> Subject: Re: [Pool] Taking down my NTP server in Turkey
>> Sender: pool-bounces+henkp=cs.uu.nl at lists.ntp.org
>
>> They're using the tr country-code zone?  Then I have to wonder why we
>> still have a tr zone.  As *ahem* unfortunate as it would be for other
>> Turks, it appears Turk Telekom is uninterested in participating in
>> the cooperative, mutually helpful network the pool is designed for.
>> Putting up an announcement on (sigh) the pool webpages that we have
>> no tr zone (and perhaps giving some subtitute, tr2 maybe?) and
>> explaining why would, it seems to me, break the abusive access while
>> being about as minimally disruptive as possible to others.
>>
>> But this seems so obvious I can hardly imagine nobody's thought of it
>> before.  So presumably there's some reason why it hasn't been done.
>
>   The reason (I think) is that Turk Telekom's abuse of the pool,
>   isn't a good enough reason /not/ to provide good ntp service
>   to the people in ".tr".
>
>   I support the current work-around : asking volunteers for "tr.pool",
>   to spread the load. To put presure on the Turk Telekom users, or
>   tamper with their service is (imho) 'evil', as in "don't be evil".
>
>   What can be done ?
>
>   -- Is there some page that describes the problem ?
>   -- If not, can someone write it up ? [I'm not volunteering ;-]
>
>   and then ...
>
>   ... maybe Ask can put it on www.pool.ntp.org
>       [ I don't see a ref to Turk Telekom there yet ]
>   ... everybody can contact Turk Telekom about the abuse
>   ... we can get Turk Telekom to acknowledge there is a problem
>   ... we can work /with/ Turk Telekom to find a better work-around,
>       or maybe even get them to fix the problem.
>
>   In the meantime, join the .tr pool, and enjoy the spikes!
>   Worry only about bandwidth ; your server can take it ;
>   ours (2001) didn't even blink, serving 25,000 packs/sec on
>   the last "leap-second" day. See our 'Traffic' stats here:
>
>     http://www.cs.uu.nl/stats/ntp/ntpstats-metronoom.dmz.cs.uu.nl.html
>
>   ... observer the decrease in traffic due to added tr.pool servers.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Henk Penning
>
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