[ntp:questions] Re: Trimble Setup Question

Greg Blakely greg.blakely at mci.com
Wed Aug 27 21:02:29 UTC 2003

Let me second what someone else said:  If I'd known about the TWIKI
documentation when I was getting started, it would have saved me many
Google searches.  For basic one-machine setup, it clearly illustrates
how simple things can be.  And, for an environment where a company
elects to use off-site clock sources, it's a very good template.

So, to whomever shephers the TWIKI.ntp.org website, thank you very much.

A suggestion for the webmaster of www.ntp.org: put a link to the TWIKI
site.  It'll save much frustration for all the newbies who go there
looking for configuration answers.

Just my two cents.

Thanks to all who answered my Trimble question.

-- Greg --

-----Original Message-----
From: questions-bounces at ntp.org [mailto:questions-bounces at ntp.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Knowles
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:35 PM
To: David L. Mills
Cc: questions at ntp.org
Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Re: Trimble Setup Question

At 6:07 PM +0000 2003/08/27, David L. Mills wrote:

>  I'm really nervous about your message about the planned migration of 
> faq  to twiki. By reputation the faq is understood by everybody - a 
> flat  document that can be read by anybody without special tools.

	Have you seen the page at

	This is not a flat document.  This page requires a web browser
to view.

	Neither of these facts would change, if the FAQ were converted
to Twiki.

>                                                               If a  
> byproduct of the twiki was to produce such a flat document, even if 
> the  best features could be enjoyed only by twiki participants, I 
> would not  feel so uneasy.

	All you would need is a web browser.  No one would need to
a twiki account, unless they would be interested in contributing 
their own content to the FAQ.

	This is exactly what happens today.  Anyone can browse the
twiki space with any web browser.  No twiki account necessary.

>                   As it is, complexity and abstraction pile on each 
> other  in just about everything you guys do, and the sad part about it

> is you  guys collectively don't realize how insidious and even 
> insulting to the  average joe newbie this has become.

	We're trying to simplify and unify the documentation, make it 
easier for us to maintain, as well as easier for other people to make 
their own contribution.

	If you are opposed to any of these goals, please let us know.

Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles at skynet.be>

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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