[ntp:questions] Re: Lists of public NTP servers

Danny Mayer mayer at gis.net
Thu Nov 6 22:55:08 UTC 2003

Steve Kostecke <kostecke at ntp.org> wrote in message news:<slrnbqh0ml.7mv.kostecke at stasis.kostecke.net>...
> On 2003-11-04, David J Taylor <david-taylor at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> <snip: colour discussion>
> >> > - I checked out the NTP support section. Instead of "how to get",
> >> > "how to install" and "how to configure" being near the start of the
> >> > section, I was put off by having "Authentication keys", "Reference
> >> > clocks" and "How to compile". To me, this is the wrong emphasis.
> >
> > []
> >
> > I refer to:
> >
> >   http://twiki.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/NTPFourWindowsNTHints
> This topic contains hints for users of "NTP 4.x for Windows NT"

This should say "NTP 4.x for Win32" with the explanation in the body
that it is for Windows NT, 2000, XP, and 2003. Win9x can't run it.
Win9x means Windows 95, 98, SE, ME, etc.

Ready for Win64 (Itanium)?

> > To gain greater acceptance by the Windows community, I feel the
> > sections should be re-ordered,
> The body of this topic is actually Dr. Mills' winnt.html document.

Not really. He just keeps it since he is not a Windows hacker. I
did the last update to this document. It still needs work.

> fact is clearly posted at the begining of the topic: "The document
> included in this topic is not cached, it is included from its original
> location (http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/hints/winnt.html)
> each time this topic is loaded/refreshed."
> As such I am not able to modify that document in any way.
> > indeed, from queries on this newsgroup it seems to me that even in the
> > Linux/Unix community there is an increasing desire for an install and
> > go solution rather than "I want to compile it for myself".
> The NTP project only produces source code releases of NTP. These
> releases may be installed using the standard Unix "make" command.

At some point I get around to creating bat and mak files so that it
can be built from the command line.

> There are links to third party pre-compiled versions of NTP for Windows
> NT at http://www.ntp.org/links.html. Binary packages of NTP are
> available through various operating system vendors and "distributions".
> <snip>
> >> > - The NTP for Windows support section is mis-spelt
> >>
> >> No. It's not.
> >>
It is not mis-spelt, it's just wrong.

> >> The title of the material in that topic is "NTP 4.x for Windows
> >> NT" which, for me, translates to a topic name (it's a WikiWord) of
> >> NTPFourWindowsNTHints
> >>
> >> That's "NTP Four (for) Windows NT Hints"
> >
> > To me it rates with duudz and such similar spellings.
> Obviously my explanation was not clear. The 'Four' in the topic name is
> not a deliberate misspelling of 'for', it refers to the NTP version
> number discussed in the included document ("NTP 4.x for Windows NT").
> Topic names must be WikiWords so they can't contain embedded spaces. And
> punctuation in WikiWords is discouraged. So, "NTP 4.x for Windows NT"
> could translate to NTP4xforWindowsNT or NTPFourXforWindowsNT or
> NTPFourForWindowsNT or NTPFourWindowsNTHints or PossiblySomethingElse..

I have no idea what a WikiWord is, and it should matter for the purpose
of documentation.

> > In any case, referring to Windows NT rather than Windows ties you down
> > to a soon-to-be-unsupported version of the OS.

The only reason for supporting that platform is that I still have a box
running NT 4.0. Other platforms are on a best availability basis and
depends on others to test.

> The included document that _is_ the content of this topic specifically
> addresses NTP 4.x for Windows NT.
> You're welcome to contribute to a topic for NTP on the Windows
> version-du-jour. I can't because I don't use Windows.

I'll be updating it eventually.


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