[ntp:questions] Re: VMS/UCX build?

Danny Mayer mayer at gis.net
Wed Nov 26 00:45:05 UTC 2003

stenn at maccarony.ntp.org (Harlan Stenn) wrote in message news:<bpuvnr$rdm$1 at dewey.udel.edu>...
> A POSIX shell would probably do the trick.
> Have you seen: http://public.www.planetmirror.com/pub/gcc-vms/mail.txt
> I think at least one of the FTP mirrors is still active.
> Would http://gnv.sourceforge.net/ help?
> Danny Mayer handled the Windows port; I gather at one time it was possible
> to use cygwin and run "configure"; nowadays folks simply use the stuff
> in ports/winnt/ and use the ntp.dsw thing.  (Near as I can tell).

Okay, I admit it. I love VMS. I run VMS 6.1 on a VAXstation (currently a
4000/60) with UCX and I have a DECC (and a VAXC) compiler on it.
I in upgrading and fixing ntp I didn't bother about making sure VMS would
work. There were too many other things to do. I thought there were instructions
on building on VMS but I can't find any. It's probably in the older versions
of ntp. Not much has changed except for additional files which will need to
be added to the compile list. I've no intention of getting into fixing those
issues but you are welcome to submit fixes for VMS.


> I have no idea what folks do for the mainframe or if it has even been done.
> Is there a chance you could do something with a cross-compile environment?
> That's what the vxworks folks do.
> The other approach is to start with a Unix box, run configure, and then
> edit config.h as needed.  The Makefiles that get generated by "configure"
> might be mostly OK.
> You may need to create a ports/vms/ subdir that has the stuff needed
> to build the code.
> In article <q66dndBS3auCcl-iRVn-gg at comcast.com>,
> Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >It's my understanding that porting"sh" to VMS is close to impossible if 
> >you aren't VMS Engineering!  DEC never documented the supervisor mode 
> >interface into the O/S that was used by DCL and, once upon a time, by 
> >MCR.   It's quite the opposite of Unix, where anyone can write a shell 
> >and nearly everyone has.  It's just barely possible that I could get the 
> >Posix shell installed.
> >
> >OTOH, if I knew what information configure needed and what it did with 
> >it, I might be able to supply it  somehow.
> >
> >What do you do if you need to build NTP for Windows, an IBM mainframe,  
> >OS400, etc?

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