brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Sat Mar 12 23:30:02 UTC 2005
At 10:01 PM +0000 2005-03-12, Hans Jørgen Jakobsen wrote:
> On my reader (slrn) the gateway'd articles seem to
> 1) break threading
This is the Message-id: issue. This is not going to change. See
There are good reasons why Mailman works this way, and until we
can guarantee that all other mail-to-news gateway solutions have been
fixed so that they work in a correct manner (and all other clients
which are capable of posting newsgroup messages as well as sending
messages via e-mail), there is nothing we can do.
We must act in the most defensive manner possible, lest we run
the serious risk of causing (or at least participating in the
creation of) much more severe problems. The alternative is
> 2) modify Subject header. ie insert "[ntp:questions]", sometimes in
> several levels
The gateway does not do this. I've checked the gateway source
code, and when configured to do so, it goes out of it's way to avoid
adding the subject prefix to messages being posted to the newsgroup.
This is done by default, and the gateway we run is configured this
However, what does not happen in Mailman 2.1.5 is the *removal*
of all previous examples of the prefix which may have been put in the
subject line by MUAs. One solution to this problem will be
incorporated into Mailman 2.1.6, which I am planning on installing as
soon as it is officially released.
This is not our fault. This is a problem caused by MUAs. But we
will take additional steps to protect against it.
> As far as I remember it has been a problem since day one.
The first issue will never be resolved. The alternative is just
The second issue should be resolved as soon as Mailman 2.1.6 is
released and we can get it installed. The third beta of 2.1.6 was
released a while back, but I have not felt comfortable installing it,
preferring to wait for the official release version.
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