[ntp:questions] Re: Correcting my time servers clock drift on Alpha ES40s / Tru64

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Sun Oct 23 17:17:39 UTC 2005

At 3:53 PM +0000 2005-10-23, Tom Smith wrote:

>  Brad Knowles wrote:
>>      Right, as Dave said -- it has been changed.  Starting with 4.0,
>>  the source code was renamed back to "ntpd", not "xntpd".  So, anyone
>>  shipping something called "xntpd" which claims a version of 4.0 or
>>  greater means that they must have modified the source code or made
>>  other changes.
>  ntpd V4.2.0 built from source and started via a link named "xntpd":
>  Oct 23 00:34:02 seeaxp xntpd[56499]: ntpd 4.2.0 at 1.1161-r Tue Feb  8 
>16:04:28 EST 2005 (1)

	Right, let's go back to my statement.  I said that they either 
modified the source code (i.e., the old NTPv3/xntpd source code to 
claim a version 4.x), or they made other changes (i.e., they took 
NTPv4 source code and changed the name to be xntpd instead of ntpd).

	That statement is still accurate.  In this case, they appear to 
have done the grave disservice to their customer of taking an NTPv4 
codebase and calling the resulting executable "xntpd".

	You have yet to prove any aspect of your claims.  Instead, you 
just go on and on spouting the same things over and over again, 
without making any positive contribution to this issue.

	Getting back to the original problem, Dr. Mills said that the 
original lines being logged will not be found anywhere in our source 
code.  I trust him on that statement.  If you can prove otherwise, 
please feel free to do so.

	Otherwise, please stop calling me a liar, and please stop calling 
Dr. Mills a liar.

	If you do have something useful to contribute to this matter, 
please do so.  Otherwise, please let someone else get a word in 
edgewise, and try to actually be helpful.

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