[ntp:questions] 3 Questions about setting up NTP

Richard B. Gilbert rgilbert88 at comcast.net
Wed Apr 9 14:15:29 UTC 2008

Danny Mayer wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> Danny Mayer wrote:
>>> Setting up DNS doesn't take much effort to set up though admittedly I 
>>> also have worked on the source code.
>> Setting up a DNS server on VMS and TCP/IP Services  was an experience 
>> I'll carry to my grave.  We had been using the server operated by our 
>> upstream provider until they decided that the load was more than they 
>> could handle.
> Well VMS is a bit different! I used UCX at the time! :)
>> This was ca. September 1998.  I had no training or experience but 
>> neither did anyone else at the site and I got stuck with the job!
>> The documentation didn't say much about it and most of what it did say 
>> was either incomplete or just flat out wrong!  It was obviously written 
>> by someone who had never done the job.
>> The software, as issued, was broken. I wound up upgrading to the very 
>> latest version of VMS plus the very latest ECO (13) for TCP/IP Services. 
>>   I spent a lot of time on the phone with third level tech support, a 
>> wizard named Smiley Smith and, ultimately, with the developer.
>> I had to do it again, a year or so later and it was none too easy the 
>> second time around either!  Copies of "DNS and BIND" and RFCs 1032, 
>> 1033, 1034, 1035, and 1183 were my constant companions.  I still have 
>> the big three-ring binder with all that stuff in it.  Who knows, I might 
>> need it again someday although I hope not unless someone is sufficiently 
>> desperate to pay two or three times my usual rates!
> Assuming that this was BIND4 or BIND8 I would not be at all surprised. 
> Paul and I are old VMS hackers and have several times discussed porting 
> BIND9 to VMS. Implemented DECThreads code would have been interesting. 
> It will probably never happen as it's a dying O/S unfortunately.
> Danny

I don't know which version of BIND was ported to UCX V3.3.  DEC's 
engineers tried to port the Berkeley TCP/IP code about ten years after 
Wollongong, TGV, and one or two other vendors had done it.  They didn't 
have a clue!  It took them years to get it right.  Ultimately the VMS 
version was ported using the Ultrix (DEC Unix) version as a base.  It 
wasn't until UCX (Ultrix Connection) V5 that they finally managed to get 
all their ducks in a row!

Those were interesting times.  From late August 1998 to late December, I 
learned more about TCP/IP, DNS, and BIND than I ever knew before (or since).

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