[ntp:questions] 3 Questions about setting up NTP
Richard B. Gilbert
rgilbert88 at comcast.net
Wed Apr 9 14:15:29 UTC 2008
Danny Mayer wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>> Danny Mayer wrote:
>>> Setting up DNS doesn't take much effort to set up though admittedly I
>>> also have worked on the source code.
>> Setting up a DNS server on VMS and TCP/IP Services was an experience
>> I'll carry to my grave. We had been using the server operated by our
>> upstream provider until they decided that the load was more than they
>> could handle.
> Well VMS is a bit different! I used UCX at the time! :)
>> This was ca. September 1998. I had no training or experience but
>> neither did anyone else at the site and I got stuck with the job!
>> The documentation didn't say much about it and most of what it did say
>> was either incomplete or just flat out wrong! It was obviously written
>> by someone who had never done the job.
>> The software, as issued, was broken. I wound up upgrading to the very
>> latest version of VMS plus the very latest ECO (13) for TCP/IP Services.
>> I spent a lot of time on the phone with third level tech support, a
>> wizard named Smiley Smith and, ultimately, with the developer.
>> I had to do it again, a year or so later and it was none too easy the
>> second time around either! Copies of "DNS and BIND" and RFCs 1032,
>> 1033, 1034, 1035, and 1183 were my constant companions. I still have
>> the big three-ring binder with all that stuff in it. Who knows, I might
>> need it again someday although I hope not unless someone is sufficiently
>> desperate to pay two or three times my usual rates!
> Assuming that this was BIND4 or BIND8 I would not be at all surprised.
> Paul and I are old VMS hackers and have several times discussed porting
> BIND9 to VMS. Implemented DECThreads code would have been interesting.
> It will probably never happen as it's a dying O/S unfortunately.
I don't know which version of BIND was ported to UCX V3.3. DEC's
engineers tried to port the Berkeley TCP/IP code about ten years after
Wollongong, TGV, and one or two other vendors had done it. They didn't
have a clue! It took them years to get it right. Ultimately the VMS
version was ported using the Ultrix (DEC Unix) version as a base. It
wasn't until UCX (Ultrix Connection) V5 that they finally managed to get
all their ducks in a row!
Those were interesting times. From late August 1998 to late December, I
learned more about TCP/IP, DNS, and BIND than I ever knew before (or since).
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