[ntp:questions] bitsy.mit.edu retired?

David L. Mills mills at udel.edu
Fri Aug 15 18:56:58 UTC 2008


Bitsy.mit.edu is alive, but not running NTP for whatever reason.

Bitsy.udel.edu was among the first public timetellers in the world, 
including clepsydra.decwrl.com and fuzzball dcn1.arpa ( They 
first chimed circa 1984. Of the three, only has public chime, 
but now a Pentium called rackety.udel.edu.


Gushi wrote:

> On Aug 14, 7:29 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>Gushi wrote:
>>>Hey all,
>>>I've frequently used the venerable old standby "bitsy.mit.edu" as an
>>>NTP server -- it had an easy to remember name, and was more "neutral"
>>>than time.windows.com or something similar.  I also recall that it had
>>>a fairly open access policy, and over time I had committed the IP
>>>address ( to memory.
>>>At the current time (no pun intended) I'm unable to get any NTP data
>>>from it, and it's not on any of the lists -- has it been retired or
>>>shuffled off?  Or am I just crazy?
>>>-Dan Mahoney
>>The fact that it's not on any of the lists suggests that it's not a
>>public server!  The fact that you can't get any response to an NTP query
>>suggests that it's not running ntpd.
> Thanks for the tier-one diagnostic there.
> My hope was more to hear from people who had "gotten a memo" that I
> had missed about its retirement, or possibly even hear from an MIT
> admin who might have been able to answer.  I had previously (for about
> ten years) gotten valid ntp responses from that server.  I can do a
> google search and find dozens of references to it, being used publicly
> and in many sample ntp.conf files.  On top of that, I recall in the
> past looking it up and finding it on an "official" servers list.
> http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=bitsy.mit.edu+ntp
>>Can you ping it?  It might not be running at all!
> It's pingable.
> -Dan

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