[ntp:questions] Copyright notice

David L. Mills mills at udel.edu
Wed Jul 2 03:25:31 UTC 2008


Bill,

You are invited to contact Mr. Brad Yops, an attorney in our Research 
Office and raise your issues with him directly. His number is in our 
online web directory. I am unwilling to be an interpreter between the 
two of you.

Dave

Unruh wrote:

> "David L. Mills" <mills at udel.edu> writes:
> 
> 
>>Bill,
> 
> 
>>This issue was raised with the Univesity lawyers; I hear what they have 
>>to say. I do not hear what you have to say. The lawyers tell me to 
>>suggest you talk to them directly. Menawhile, please bug off.
> 
> 
> Not clear which of the many issues I raised you are claiming they disagree
> with me on-- if any. 
> a) If you wrote the software, you own the copyright, not the U delaware,
> unless it was a work for hire. You may have transfered copyright to them.
> That is up to you and your contract with the university.
> b) You do not own the copyright in works others did unless they explicitly
> transfered copyright to you. 
> c)You cannot unilaterally change the copyright license under which any
> user orginally aquired the work.
> 
> Which of those points are you claiming they disagreed with?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>Dave
> 
> 
>>Unruh wrote:
> 
> 
>>>"David L. Mills" <mills at udel.edu> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lots of folks have been chipping away at me over the years about the 
>>>>copyright notice in the NTP distribution. I have refused to change the 
>>>>wording on the basis this might disenfranchise current users. Well, I 
>>>>took the case to the lawyers in our Univerisity Intellectual Properties 
>>>>Office and they told me the current wording is perfect and not to change 
>>>>anything. They did suggest I change the copyright holder to the 
>>>>University of Delaware on the basis this might deflect complaints to me 
>>>>personally. I have done that and so it remains.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually that may be problematic. NTP is NOT just yours. It belongs to all
>>>who contribute to it. Their works which are included are derivative works
>>>based on your work, and as a r esult fall under both your and their
>>>copyright. NOw you are perfectly within your rights to transfer copyright
>>>in your work to the U of Deleware ( or depending on your contract with them, all your
>>>work may be work for hire and have always belonged to them) but the work of
>>>others does NOT belong to either you or U Del. YOu could also all
>>>contributors totransfer copyright to you or U Del. but without such a
>>>transfer, it belongs to them. 
>>>Note no current change in the copyright notice can disenfranchise old
>>>users. The contract under which they aquired the software cannot be
>>>unilaterally changed by you (unless you demand that they sign a contract
>>>which explicitley gives you that right).)
>>>




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