[ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

Unruh unruh-spam at physics.ubc.ca
Sun Mar 15 18:12:49 UTC 2009

Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn at comcast.net> writes:

>In article <lbGdnS8Bwol7myDUnZ2dnUVZ_uKWnZ2d at giganews.com>,
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> wrote:

>> > The suspicion is that we have not set something up correctly, not that 
>> > NTP v3 has failed, or that NTP v4 would fare better or worse.  Don't 
>> > understand the comment about funding.
>> > 
>> Simple enough.  The people who maintain NTPD have to earn a living 
>> somehow.  The more unpaid time they volunteer the more difficult it 
>> becomes to pay the bills!

>Open Source is doomed?  Bill's prayers are answered at last.

Yup, if by doomed you mean that open source stops supporting old versions
long after new versions are released. It is doomed. Oh wait, I just tried
to get support from Microsoft for my Windows 3 installation and they
refused. Microsoft is doomed.

>> Version 3 is AT LEAST six years old.  

>So is the OS version being used: 2009-2002= 7 years.  So, they're 

And how much support do you get from Sun for the operating system?

>>  V4.something is current.  Vendors 
>> are still shipping V3 because the RFC for V4 has not yet been formally 
>> adopted.  Or, if it has been adopted, the adoption is extremely recent.

>You forgot to mention laziness and pernicious inertia.

>If I recall, on a prior project, the version of NTP that came with the 
>Solaris boxes of the day wasn't quite good enough (don't recall why), so 
>the software folk downloaded and installed the then latest version of 
>NTP (v3 I think) and that worked.  The project team is still around.  I 
>think I'll chase the details down.

>> If you have a C compiler, you can download the source and build it 
>> yourself.  If you don't have a C compiler you can download GCC for free.

>Way too much work.  It's never just compile and go.  Significant futzing 
>always seems necessary.  Nor should this be necessary for Sun 

>But nagging at me is a half memory that on that prior project they may 
>have had to compile NTP, for some possibly irrelevant reason.  Like 
>wanting to use the same toolchain for all code.  Another reason to chase 
>the details down.

>Joe Gwinn

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