[ntp:questions] NTP Support (Was 'What does "Max Distance Exceeded"...')

Richard B. Gilbert rgilbert88 at comcast.net
Mon Mar 16 23:22:03 UTC 2009

Unruh wrote:
> David Woolley <david at ex.djwhome.demon.co.uk.invalid> writes:
>> Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>> We have moved from the meaning of status code 9514 to the more general 
>> But you should have kept the thread, even if the subject changed.
>>> issue of how NTP shall be supported, so I've collected the relevant 
>>> threads below.
>>> More generally, it's hopeless to expect the world's sysadmins to read 
>>> NTP code (or any other kind of code).  They just don't have the time, 
>> Generally, you only need to read a small bit of code to answer this sort 
>> of question, but if you haven't got the time you should pay someone who 
>> does have the time.
>> Historically, open source software was written for use by people who had 
>> the ability to support it themselves.  Recently, the relationship has 
>> become asymmetric with a lot of people wanting free software and free 
>> support.  Whilst some open source software developers may consider it a 
>> valuable loss leader to produce a naive user product and support it, may 
>> even consider it part of their mission, most open source developers are 
>> not that interested in donating that level of free support.
> ???? I do not believe that say Linus every believed that he wrote the
> kernel only for people who would support it themselves. It was a tool
> written for many by a few. Ie, it was always assymetric. I suspect also
> that Linus would have immense difficulty supporting everything in the
> kernel, or even knowing what is there, himself. And it is precisely when
> you know others will be both working on and using the software you write
> that it becomes crucial that good coding practice be instituted. That means
> a) writing the code so that anyone ( including you three months from now)
> can relatively easily figure out what is going on and
> b) writing up documentation so that anyone ( including you three months
> from now) knows what the output means. 
> And there are lots of people who do it that way. 
Those who can and do work this way command top dollar!  There are never 
enough of them!!

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