[ntp:questions] backup PPS source
G8KBV
dave at g8kbv.removethis.demon.co.uk
Mon Apr 12 18:37:15 UTC 2010
In article <82f3qcFg17U1 at mid.individual.net>, snews at lordynet.org says...
>
> Hi
>
> Latest experiment is to attempt to make a backup PPS source and
> I've now made a start with a watch xtal oscillator and divider
> that can be synchronised by a PPS source when present (except
> I've not yet wired up for synchronisation).
>
> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset
> jitter
> ==============================================================================
> +GPS_NMEA(0) .GPSb. 0 l 57 64 377 0.000 1.865
> 0.381
> oPPS(0) .PPSb. 1 l - 16 377 0.000 -0.004
> 0.002
> PPS(2) .OSCc. 1 l 10 16 377 0.000 1.859
> 0.006
> -k6x400.home.lor 192.168.59.64 2 u 3 64 377 0.951 3.837
> 0.447
> +me6000g.home.lo .MSFa. 1 u 29 64 377 0.905 3.190
> 0.451
> -p4x2400c.home.l 192.168.59.64 2 u 34 64 377 0.832 3.078
> 0.343
>
> PPS(2) was time1 fudged to get it < 2ms.
>
> I can see there being problems already with full rotation of trim
> cap giving about +/- 6 us/s variation and temperature changes
> have already shown a minor problem (south facing window, very hot
> day, rapidly going cold tonight). Of course putting the whole
> oscillator module in a temperature controlled box is in the plan.
>
> Earlier this afternoon I had trimmer set so that offset change
> between poll periods was < +1us, but that started increasing and
> change has now reversed direction with offset over last hour
> having dropped from 1867us, steps at 6min intervals being:
> -31 -43 -54 -61 -59 -60 -58 -60 -59 -68 -75 -76us
> ie total 0.63ms over last hour.
>
> The temperature swings today have also has adverse effect on the
> three peers shown that on a good day can all be < 500us.
>
> Any hints/tips welcome, I'm also considering an oscillator using
> an AT cut xtal but design for that is considerably more complex,
> however it's then a possibility to convert the HF to be used as
> system clock.
>
> I also keep googling for rubidium sources but not found any
> within my budget, cheapest I've found (new) starting at ukp 900.
>
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Dave B.
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