[ntp:questions] local vs Windows Server 2003

David Lord snews at lordynet.org
Thu May 13 14:17:29 UTC 2010

Adrian Marsh wrote:
> On 12/05/2010 21:55, David Woolley wrote:
>> Adrian Marsh wrote:
>>> The main windows server is set to clock from time.nist.gov, and I'm
>>> fighting to get the linux clients to sync from my internal server.
>>> Windows clients seem ok (I know thats done via AD).
>> w32time needs a lot of tweaking to make it NTP compliant. I'm not sure
>> if all the tweaks are available in the Win2003 version. It is never as
>> good as running the ntpd reference implementation on Windows, and
>> running that on Unix or Linux is even better.
>> time.nist.gov is overloaded and unlikely to have an optimum network path
>> to you.
>>> This was all working last week, except one client who insisted that
>>> the offset was off by about 300 seconds. That machine was so bad we've
>>> been in touch with Dell to look at the hardware.
>>> However today, the main server needed a reboot, and since then I can't
>>> get any of the linux clients to agree to sync to the main server (no *
>>> against the peers listing).
>> You need to use ntpq rv to find out the status of the server and why it
>> is being rejected (use it with the association ids from ntpq assoc).
>> However, w32time clients do not reject servers with huge root
>> dispersions, resulting from the server being unsynchronised for a long
>> time.
>> As others have said, you should not have a local clock configured. It
>> should, however, only be used as a last resort.
> Hi David,
> Thanks for that.  magically overnight all the servers have started 
> trusting the main server again.  I'm wondering if, because of the 
> reboot, that the w2003 server hadn't yet synced to time.nist.gov, and so 
> maybe the clients knew not to "trust" it yet? It was several hours after 
> the reboot that I'd checked...  Pure guessing there.
> I'll hunt for a better source locally, and I'll remove the LOCAL from 
> non-servers.

I think I found about 20 uk servers in the list here

Of those a good few were unreachable. I used the ntptrace
utility to find which were nearest then knocked out the most
distant of those with same source. I've also used a few for
past 15 years or so that don't appear on the list and also
the one provided by my isp. Alas bear.zoo.bt.co.uk is no
longer available and BT corporate seem to be getting time
from my servers :-)


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